Castello experts, here's one to test your knowledge
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly. You should upgrade or use an alternative browser. Discussion in ' Pipes ' started by userSep 4, Log in or Sign up. This forum section is for discussing pipes, it is not for advertising in any fashion. Castello experts, here's one to test your knowledge Discussion in ' Pipes ' started by userSep 4, Eric CastelkoChristTigerzeavran1 and 5 others like this.
Apr 3, Messages: Have you ever seen one with a Reg No. ChristTiger and user like this. Before the oval, I read he would stamp his name with "SC", for Scotti, Carlo. That castello pipe dating isn't on there, either. Last edited by a moderator: Feb 9, Messages: When I saw this thread, I wasn't worried castello pipe dating I knew Dave would be around to answer the question. As much as Castello pipe dating enjoy the castello pipe dating of Castello I'd love to have some rock solid castello pipe dating to all our questions.
I love the carving on those early SR. They really had the feel of a mossy, lichen covered sea rock face. Jan 6, Messages: Beautiful pipe, nice find! YossarianSep 4, castello pipe dating Jul 7, Messages: Good Day All; This might assist. In the beginning -maybe the pipes were stamped Mi Reserva my reserve. Later the Reg No was added. This Reg No has nothing to do with shape numbers, but is merely the Castello company trademark.
Vulcanite stems used castello pipe dating This is an interesting question. From early Castello pipe advertising from the Wally Frank and later Hollco Rohr companies it says the pipe comes with Vulcanite stems. However the photo's appear to daating pipes with Lucite stems. To our knowledge no one has yet seen a Vulcanite stemmed Castello with the faux diamond logo inset. To see these adds please visit http: The Old Sea Rock and the Sea Rock co-existed.
As far as I know, the OSR was US only, imported by Hollco Rohr, and sported the rhinestone. The Sea Rock goes back to the early days. There was an Antiquari not Old Antiquari that was also a Hollco import, and was fume top and rusticated. I think it was only around for a couple of years. Castello still occasionally put rhinestones in the mouthpieces, just to maintain it's value as a trademark.
It's not on many pieces. I've also seen a couple of pipes with both the white bar and the rhinestone. Shape numbers are all 2 digits. A 2 in front indicates a "fancy" interpretation, a 3 in front means that the carving is somehow unique. I've only seen this on Sea Rocks, but that doesn't mean anything. Hollco Rohr begins distribution in the mid to late 's when they take over the Wally Frank Company.
Big Line - stamp used from - Replaced by Great Line, although still used on huge pipes. Colored Lucite stems - used in the 's and on occasion today although the material is difficult to find. Late 's to mid 's the pipe carried stamps which indicted sizes. These were as follows; SA, SB, SC, and SS. SA being the smallest and SS the largest. In Franco Coppo joins the firm. In the late 's and early 's the company began the use of the K grading.
The upper case large K, was used for non smooth pipes ppie designate size and for smooth pipes to indicate grain quality. These are also years that Castello switched from machine made pipes that were hand finished to completely hand made pipes. Now to your pipe. As there is no SA, SC, SS etc and has a shape number castello pipe dating can guess the pipe was created sometime after the late 's. The faux diamond from that era makes it a Hollco Rohr era pipe as well.
As far cqstello the lack of the Carlo Scotti stamp I have seen Castello's datinf have been double stamped. I have seen Castello's that carry only the Castello stamp and nothing else. So in other words One key to helping date Castello Sea Rocks is the finish. The "style" of rustication used can certainly help to establish the decade era the pipe was carved. As I do not have the pipe in hand I can only go by the photo's.
The texture does say early era. My guess would be sometime in the 's. MJGluklerSep 5, Thank you for your insight Michael. I found a couple of versions of that article online when trying to unweave the mystery that is Castello dating. InCarlo Scotti was close to closing his doors, and then enters Wally Frank. Frank creates the Castello "diamond" in the stem. Then, in the late 50s, they start using the SA, SB, SC, SS sizes. Since there piep no size stamp on this pipe, wouldn't that datlng it between dwting Frank partnered and the late 50s when they started using size stamping?
It cannot be that early a pipe. The shape numbers came after the 2 letter size designations. The reason the faux diamond was "invented" was that Wally Frank was already selling castello pipe dating brand named White Bar, castello pipe dating had a white bar stem logo, thus castello pipe dating avoid confusion something else needed to be used for Castello. I am castello pipe dating to believe fastello some of the early Castello's arriving in the US arrived with the white bar stem logo.
So with faux diamond and shape number it could not be 's. You have a lot of knowledge about Castello's pipes, I appreciate your help! Thanks for the kind words. I am not an expert on anything pipes or tobacco. I know a little and learn new pipe things every day. All the above castello pipe dating I have offered is information I have ;ipe from others with way more knowledge and expertise on Castello's.
Jul 16, Messages: That's a nice looking pipe! WGSPSep 5, IMO The shape numbers came early perhaps from day one. The pipes were generally very small and offered in one size. Hi Dave et all; That is interesting and I guess possible. So I have castel,o off an email to Italy and have asked the questions. Were shape numbers used pre the 2 letter grades? When did the faux diamond logo first begin?
With those answered maybe we can pin point the date better. MJGluklerSep 6, Gentlemen, I appreciate the initiative!